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The Way Out Is In With Jo Confino

July 29, 2024

The Way Out Is In with Jo Confino

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How can we stop striving to be at the top and instead discover that the way out is in? In this episode of the Wise Effort Show, Jo Confino joins Diana Hill in Plum Village, France, to discuss how true fulfillment doesn’t come from external achievements but from inside ourselves. We can find genuine happiness and peace by embracing mindfulness and redefining our notions of success.

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  • How to make a big impact with a small effort
  • How to lead from the front, center, and back
  • Ways to look for insights inside yourself
  • To Avoid The Trap of Endless Striving:

Listen to Jo as he shares his thoughts on moving away from the pursuit of being at the top and instead finding that the true path lies within.

About Jo Confino

Jo Confino (pronouns he/him) is an executive coach, facilitator, journalist, sustainability expert, and Zen mindfulness practitioner. He works at the intersection of personal transformation and systems change with several organizations, including Leaders’ Quest, Future Stewards, and the United Nations Development Program. Jo has worked closely for the past sixteen years with Zen Master Thích Nhất Hạnh and his monastic community in Plum Village, France, is on the board of the Thích Nhất Hạnh Foundation, is chair of the board of Parallax Press, as well as co-hosting The Way Out Is In, a podcast with Brother Pháp Hữu.

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