In this episode of The Wise Effort Show, host Diana Hill is joined by her co-author and biomechanist Katy Bowman and they talk with health psychologist Dr. Kelly McGonigal. They discuss how to fall in love with movement by discussing Diana and Katy’s new book, “I Know I Should Exercise, But…44 Reasons We Don’t Move and How to Get Over Them.” In it, they promote a flexible, inclusive approach to removing the many barriers we have bringing more movement into life. The conversation dives into overcoming psychological and environmental barriers, understanding the physical, emotional, and social benefits of movement, and redefining exercise to suit personal needs and life stages.
Listen and Learn
- Our Movement Routines and Challenges
- Assumptions and Barriers to Movement
- Psychological Barriers to Movement
- Experimenting with Movement Awareness
- Finding Your Movement Genius
About Kelly McGonigal
Kelly McGonigal is a health psychologist and lecturer at Stanford University who specializes in understanding the mind-body connection. As a pioneer in the field of “science-help,” her mission is to translate insights from psychology and neuroscience into practical strategies that support personal well-being and strengthen communities. She has a popular TED talk titled “How to Make Stress Your Friend” that has been viewed over 20M times and is the best-selling author of The Joy of Movement–a book that explores why physical exercise is a powerful antidote to the modern epidemics of depression, anxiety, and loneliness.
About Katy Bowman
Katy Bowman, M.S. is a biomechanist, movement teacher, and bestselling author who has changed the way many move and think about their need for movement. Her 11 books, including the groundbreaking Move Your DNA, have sold more than 300,000 copies in English and been translated into 16 languages worldwide. Named one of Maria Shriver’s “Architects of Change” and an America Walks “Woman of the Walking Movement,” Bowman teaches movement globally and speaks about sedentarism and movement ecology to academic and scientific audiences. Her work is regularly featured by diverse national and international media including The New York Times, The Guardian, NPR, CBC Radio, Seattle Times, Good Housekeeping, Outside, The Joe Rogan Experience, andThe Today Show. She has also worked with companies like Patagonia, Nike, and Google, as well as a wide range of non-profits and other communities to create greater access to her “movement as nutrition” message.
Related Resources:
Get your pre-sale discount ($40 off for podcast subscribers) on my new audio course Level Up Your Movement. It’s an audio course you listen to while you move to help you take your movement to the next level. Available March 3, 2025.
I Know I Should Exercise, But…44 Reasons We Don’t Move and How to Get Over Them. is my new book with Katy Bowman and will be available March 4, 2025.
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